32 Thoughts: The Podcast

00:00 Dom, sour grapes, man. It's really unbecoming. Take your L like an adult, okay? 00:11 Don't be a suck. 00:12 Take your L like an adult. Yeah. You made up the rule of over under here with all this. You went, I'm 1699. 00:19 I didn't make anything up. I've watched The Price is Right for many, many years. 00:26 Welcome to 32 Thoughts, the podcast. Happy when? Huh? What day? Thursday. First day of the new schedule. Elliott Friedman, Dom Sharmati, just as a new NHL schedule has begun. We are two nights in to the NHL calendar, the 2026-2027 season. We'll get into some of the games we have seen so far. But, Elliott, we left things on Monday and talking about some unfinished business that was still hovering over certain patches of North America, one of which, of course, was Kirill Marchenko. 01:03 That got settled on Monday, and it was kind of funny because the Maple Leafs, they practiced at Scotiabank Arena that day, and afterwards, John Chayka met the media around 1 o'clock Eastern about, and And he was being asked about Nyes. This was before the trade had come out. 01:22 And it was all the noise about him. How did you think he dealt with it? And he made a comment to the effect of, does the trade chatter ever truly go away? It was almost like a clue for us of just hang on. You haven't seen anything yet. And it wasn't even a few hours later that you had put out the initial report that things were trending towards Marchenko to Toronto. It happened. He's played two games for the blue and white. But how we got there on Monday, what can you fill us in on now? 01:53 I think the permission from Columbus to talk to Marchenko came about 1.15 Eastern time that day too, Kyle. So right around, he might've even been still talking to you, answering one of your atrocious questions when he was told he was officially allowed to talk to the player. I mean, what a crazy couple of hours, um, You know, we talked about how that day there might have been a soft deadline to get Marchenko done by 5 Eastern when the league-wide opening night... 02:32 cap-compliant rosters need to be submitted. And there's no question in my mind that Toronto got the deal done for two major reasons. Number one, they had the best player available, Matthew Nyes. And I think Columbus would admit that. They knew that they could get knives from Toronto potentially in this deal, and it was going to be impossible to get somebody else as young, as cost-controlled, and as talented as he is. 03:04 And the second reason was one of the things the Maple Leafs have been absolutely unafraid to do in the cap era is use their financial muscle. Flex it. Yes, it's like that... 03:19 It's like that social media post they made where the Toronto Maple Leafs and you're not. We will put our money where our mouth is. And they took the Merce Leakins deal and they took the Miles Wood deal. Now, I think they were trying to flip Miles Wood. 03:36 Also that day, I think they were trying to work on trades to see if they could move him elsewhere. 03:42 But obviously that didn't happen. And right now he's with the Marlies of the AHL and we might see him during the season. 03:50 You know, you never know in this league. You think something's not going to happen. 03:55 but injuries and situations make it occur. But I think those were the reasons that the Maple Leafs got the deal done, Nyes, and the willingness to take those two contracts. Montreal, no question, they had been the most serious pursuer all summer. From the moment that Marchenko was potentially available, that he'd let the Blue Jackets know he would not sign an extension there, they were the team that chased the hardest. And word behind the scenes was he was more than happy to go there. 04:29 I think that's one of the most interesting storylines about this whole thing, Kyle, is that the word early in July was he was willing to go to Montreal, but he wasn't so crazy about Toronto. Somewhere over the summer, that changed. The Maple Leafs got it done. They got them extended. The amazing thing was You know, they got the extension verbally done on Monday, but it wasn't signed until Tuesday. 05:00 They had the term agreed to six years. They had the AAV agreed to 12 and a half million a year. 05:09 Chayka made an interesting comment, Kyle, in his press conference on Tuesday morning, the morning after they made the deal before they played their opener against the Canadians. He said Dan Milstein, the agent, knew exactly what he wanted. And from what I understand, the Leafs were told they had two choices, five times 12 or six times 12 and a half. and they chose the six times 12 and a half option. So they had to work on the structure and some of the language, which they did, but the extension was basically presented to them. 05:48 And Kyle, the other thing that was crazy was I think they had to redo the deal. Well, never mind, I think. I know they had to redo the deal. 05:56 You know, people have asked me to explain this tagging thing. The simplest way to do it is, You can't have like $300 million in contracts next year. 06:12 Basically, what it does is it prevents you from saying, you know what? I've got my cap done for this year. I'll sign or trade for a bunch of guys who have $300 million in contract next year, and I'll deal with it then. You can't do that. You basically can't go over the cap in future years, to make it simple. So I think initially I heard that Emil Andre was not in the trade and he was put in it because he's owed 1.55 million next year and that helped them get the deal done. 06:49 So that's why all of that kind of played out that way. You know, I've tried to figure out what Montreal did at the end. I heard that Montreal was trying to be really creative or I think they were trying to involve other teams. I'm not 100% sure if they were trying to get other teams to take one of these extra Columbus guys, or were they trying to take a player from another team and put them in Columbus? 07:22 Because I just always heard that Columbus wasn't crazy about what Montreal offered. There were some good players in there, but some futures. Columbus didn't really want futures, and they just never had anything close to nice. 07:41 I heard there was another player they were trying to get to Columbus from another team. I thought I knew who that guy was, but the other team has denied it. So I'm still working, Kyle, on who that guy was. 07:56 Or guys were. 07:58 Okay. So when it comes to Matthew Nyes then, Elliot, I mean, we watched him. You think about the playoffs two years ago, how utterly dominant he was in that Ottawa series. And then against Florida, you know, if he not had gotten hurt, because obviously by the end he was not far from 100%. 08:18 Do they beat the Panthers in the end? Who knows? He was such a critical piece of them two springs ago. And I guess maybe that's part of the equation. Had he not gotten hurt, and we know injuries was part of his story last season as well, was that one of the things that maybe gave the Maple Leafs a bit of nerves with him going forward? Because otherwise you had a young player with What was a great number before this summer, a phenomenal number now with how everything has changed. Was that the one sticking point? 08:49 I know, of course, it's a new regime in charge as well. Ultimately, where they thought, okay, we're willing to part with this guy. Of course, you've got to give up quality to get a guy like Marchenko. 08:59 I think that's the number one thing, honestly, Kyle, is that you have to give quality to get quality. I don't think that should be forgotten. 09:08 It's a very big part of what happened here. But, you know, a lot of people have asked that. Is there something wrong with him? Is he a bad guy? You know, the answer is no. He's not a bad guy. But I do think if you were to say, and I've said this a couple times in the aftermath, Kyle, I really hate it when a player gets traded. 09:30 And all of a sudden there's, oh, this guy was a bad guy or these were the problems with him. Like you just sort of embarrass a guy when he's no longer there to face you day to day. So I'm really careful about that kind of thing. The only complaint I ever heard about Nye is it's not even so much of a complaint. It's that I think there was worry that the injuries he'd suffered, especially the concussions, that they might catch up with him. That's it. 09:59 Okay. Well, I have to say, and even being at the rink there on Monday, certainly in the dressing room, you didn't get a sense that anything was coming. And, you know, we saw some of the interviews that Nyes has done since being traded to Columbus. And understandably, it seems like though his name had been out there, I wonder if getting through training camp, getting through preseason, practiced on the number one line on Monday afternoon, the day before the season opener. I wonder if the mind started to go, okay, maybe that's going to be put to the side for a little bit. 10:34 And then suddenly a bit of a shock. 10:36 an hour later or however long it was going, oh no, wait a sec, you're on the move here now. 10:42 It's a brand new life for you in Columbus. But I think there's, for Columbus, a real opportunity to have this be a win for them also. It was a cloud hanging over them with Marchenko. We'll see how things go, whether he starts with, when he starts with Adam Fantelli, how that all goes. I just think there's a real chance for a guy that was showing the potential that was growing when healthy in Toronto to now have the opportunity to continue to do so with a Blue Jackets team that would love a player of that caliber. 11:16 I think this has the chance to be a win both ways. 11:21 To be honest, I was thinking about this, Kyle. First of all, I think it's a win for Nyes because it's over. 11:28 And what happens in these situations is everybody parses everything really tight. For example, that video that Columbus put out of the trade, people are like, oh, well, Nyes doesn't really sound happy. 11:42 You know what? I think it's such a whirlwind. 11:46 And as you said, he goes from practicing on the number one line the day before the season to getting traded after months of rumors. And, you know, I was told after the trade that – The Maple Leafs were kind of preparing for, I don't know if ultimatum is the right word, Kyle, but I think they knew that Nyes was going to demand or his representation was going to demand some clarity. Like enough's enough already. Like our player needs to know he's in your plans or he's not. 12:19 And also, don't forget, this is a young guy. It's the first time he's ever been traded. 12:25 I'd forgotten the video of him on social media when the Maple Leafs won the lottery. And I guess he was at... 12:35 Was he at a basketball game or something? 12:37 I think him and Nylander were at one of the Marley's playoffs games. 12:40 Oh, it was the Marley's playoff games. Okay, I couldn't remember what it was and how excited they were that they won it. Like, this was a guy who was invested. So I think you just... 12:52 You have to get through the emotional whirlwind when he puts the jersey on, he drops the puck, and then Columbus is opening on Thursday night against Buffalo. He's going to run over his first Sabre. Maybe he's going to chirp Benson because of that hilarious mohawk he's got now. What a great video the Sabres put out. I'm dancing in that Mohawk on Wednesday. I loved it. And then we were asking each other, we were golfing with Kevin and Luke on Wednesday. Kyle, we were asking if either one of us had either gotten a Mohawk before. 13:25 Answers no, in case any of you were wondering. Once he just gets... 13:34 into it, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. And, you know, the other thing I was thinking, Kyle, you look at all the trades that are being talked about now, you know, Hellebuck, Larkin, whichever deal you want. 13:50 The thing that you should realize if you're Columbus is when this is all over and I'm curious to see how many teams making these trades get a player as good as nice. 14:07 I don't know how many players at his youth, talent, and contract and experience are going to be available, are going to be available. You know, I'll say this too. 14:20 What's really interesting is that Chica was supposed to do a couple of radio interviews, the good telecom and the evil telecom, and he had to put them off. But I heard later, Knize was scheduled to do a radio interview, I think, on Monday afternoon, and he got pulled. 14:48 And it was kind of like, someone told me about this, and it was kind of like, That's one of the reasons I think it kind of seeped out that something was going down. 15:04 Right, right, right, right. And the other thing, too, so this all happens at a time when they're running through the rehearsals for all the pomp and circumstance for the home opener Tuesday night. They're doing that the day before, and then it was like, oh, shoot. 15:19 Now Matthew Nyes is gone. So take him out of all the hype videos, out of all the promo stuff. 15:26 Obviously, we're not introducing him Tuesday night. 15:28 So it was a last minute scramble for a bunch of people involved when that goes down some 24 hours before opening night. 15:39 There's a lot of layers to this. 15:41 Yes. It's always people forget. It's always those individuals in your promotions and your video and graphic department. 15:50 They're the ones who have to do some of the most important editing and legwork on those days. You know, something else about Toronto I want to say, Kyle. 16:00 I think there were a couple of things in the offseason that they were considering that could potentially have Cowan involved. 16:08 And I did hear this week that even before the puck dropped, that Cowan's stock in the organization was way up. 16:19 and that it was like Toronto's desire to move Cowan has really decreased, that they're like, uh-oh, like this guy is a player. And then in the first two games of the season, the loss to Montreal and the victory over the Islanders, he was one of their best players, I thought. 16:40 So there definitely is a feeling that Cowan's stock is up even before 16:49 he started playing or they started playing and I think in the first two games we all saw why yeah and it's funny you say that because I was asking somebody before Tuesday night of how do you think he's looking at the whole dynamic where McKenna comes in as the number one pick they got all these new bodies and he would have been a guy that was talked about a lot this time last year as the rookie making the team out of camp and suddenly he was just another guy in the lineup for a little while with all these new faces in here and And the answer was, well, it's OK that now the attention is elsewhere, but you just don't want the attention to be elsewhere too much from a head coaching perspective, right? 17:30 Like, are you still getting put in decent situations to have success in terms of ice time and who your line mates are and all of that? And to your point, the first two games, he's been very noticeable and has moved up. the lineup partway through each game. It's been a really good start for him. You're right. 17:48 Yep. So, I mean, you know, well, like Marchenko looked good. He looks very good. Yeah. And I like him on the off wing. 17:59 I'm curious to see... The one guy from Toronto who I think gets most affected by this deal potentially is Roslevic. 18:07 And it's a unique situation. First of all, you rarely see trades like this right at the beginning of the year and night before the start of the regular season. And the guy gets basically thrown on Jim Hiller's lap right as they're about to play two games back-to-back. So... 18:27 You really don't have a lot of time to think. You got to just go with it and just see how all this ends up. But what a way to start the year, an absolute banger of a trade that gets us going. You know, I have to tell you, Dom, the only bad start to the year we had was at golf. Kyle and Luke wore the extra small pants. 18:56 on the course. 18:58 And I have to tell you, Dom, it was the only thing about the golf day on Wednesday afternoon I didn't enjoy. I lost $20 on the wagering because I had about four holes in the back nine where I went tilt as, as Kyle saw, but that was not the glitch. That's what Kevin says. Like it was, I was like a router. They had to unplug me and plug me back in. But Tom, I got to tell you, Kyle and Luke, they needed crowbars to get into the pants they wore on, on Wednesday. 19:34 Yeah. 19:34 Left nothing to the imagination, hey? 19:38 It was not pretty. It was not pretty. I'll say that. 19:41 It was pretty. We wore it well. 19:43 I'll do it again. I don't care. 19:47 Skinny jeans are back. 19:49 Yeah. Yes, that's right. Oh, I could never wear jeans golfing. Can you imagine? 19:55 Speaking of tight pants, well, do you remember one spot at a time the jeans ad that Dylan Larkin did in Detroit? Yes. Yes. 20:04 I'm Dylan Larkin and I have a hockey butt. Yes. That was great. But now we're all wondering what's going on still in Detroit, right? That on a Larkin front. Also, you've got Simone Edvinson skating now back home in Sweden as he still doesn't have a contract. And, you know, we're still seeing, okay, Larkin's working his way back from injury. Is he going to play when they open their season on Friday? And how much longer will he remain a Red Wing? What's the latest in HockeyTown? 20:35 So Dom just texted, legendary segue, and that was Kyle. That was McLean at his absolute best segue there. That is a segue worthy of the host chair on Hockey Night in Canada. Excellent job. I mean, with Larkin, I think in Larkin in particular, it's when's he going to be healthy enough to play? I remember there was one time I went on the air and I questioned the injury and Glenn Healy like just gave it to me. 21:08 He said, if you're going to question injury, you better know. And, and I do think, I know that Detroit, Detroit is a five alarm fire fire right now. Just not, I'm not just talking about the organization. I'm talking about the whole relationship between the fans and the organization, but Larkin is legitimately hurt. And, you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens there and how that plays out. So that's number one. I don't know if there's anything on the front burner there. 21:38 The Edmondson thing is a big deal, Kyle. You know, as I've reported, I believe organizationally they're – They want a bridge. They don't want term. 21:53 Yeah. Well, look, if it's changed, nobody has told me. But the one thing I heard from a couple of different places was now that Ed Vinson has gone back to Sweden to skate, The ball is, I've been told in a couple of places, the ball is in the Red Wings court. Basically, it's their decision what happens here. So what that says to me is that Edmondson or his representatives, and he's represented by J.P. Berry, they've got something out there that they have offered, and it's up to the Red Wings to decide. 22:28 Now... 22:30 I mean, you know me. I always try to be careful. I don't like to pile on. I've been on the receiving end of those pylons before, and I know what it's like. But I think it's an impossible story to ignore. And I thought about what was the right thing to say. And I think one of the challenges right now with the Red Wings is that Every day there's something else, and some of it's true, a lot of it's true, but some of it, I don't know if it's true. 23:04 The one thing I dispute is until someone proves to me otherwise is the Stephen Stamkos thing. 23:13 So that year, I heard that Nashville blew everybody out of the water, that the reason he ended up with the Predators is the Predators decided they wanted the player, and they made an offer that nobody else was even close to. Now, are there other choices or other things the Red Wings could have done that maybe didn't work out their way? 100%. 23:37 But I remember at the time, and I actually went back and checked my notes, I was told that Nashville just, nobody was close to them. 23:49 And he ended up there. But the one thing I think is a fair criticism of Detroit right now is that they kind of have, like, The change from Iserman, I think it was a defensible move. I think you could absolutely say that they had their reasons to make a GM change. But what happened in the aftermath, you can't have organizational inertia. 24:21 You can't have an inability to do things because as a team, The clock is always ticking on important decisions. 24:32 Like with this Larkin thing, I think there was a time where as Detroit went through their search, they weren't really prepared to make the deal. 24:47 And okay, but with Edvinson, you knew that the season was going to be starting. You have to be prepared to get that done, especially since you've already said, We're not, as Horkoff pointed out in his media conference, we're not rebuilding. We want to compete. Well, you need Edvinson to compete. And the other thing I think, I'm starting to look at Dabrinkit because, you know, Dabrinkit's a guy who wants to be a Red Wing. 25:23 He was thrilled to go there. He talked about it with us at the NHLPA media tour in Vegas, Kyle. 25:30 But, you know, now you've already lost the ability to sign them for eight years. 25:36 And the reason was they really weren't ready to talk to them. 25:42 And that is the kind of thing I look at and say. 25:47 You have to protect yourself against that. 25:51 Even if you're in a state of change around your organization, a guy like Dabrinkit, who is one of your best players and your best goal scorer, Like that is important long-term ramifications to the team. And if there is something I would say right now to Detroit that is a constructive criticism, it's that you have to get yourself into position to make these decisions. Because I think that if I was a Red Wing fan, I wouldn't be worried about it just for the now I'd be worried about what this meant for all of this meant for the future because this these these decisions aren't just October 2026 decisions these decisions Edvinson Larkin to brink it, they're going to affect your organization for potentially a decade to come. 26:58 And I think that that's what they have to do. They have to be in a place where they can make these choices. Now, I've heard, and the Red Wings have said, that they will continue to look for the right person as part of that. And in the shorter term, I think they've talked about the possibility of bringing in more senior people to help out Horkoff. And I never have a problem with that. But I just think the Red Wings have to make it a priority to be in a position to start making some of these decisions faster. 27:39 It's too important. 27:41 I mean, not unlike the Hellebuck situation in Winnipeg. However, that ends up in the ripple effects, as you say, for the next decade. That could be a big one. And in Detroit, as you're saying, there's a bit of urgency with a few of these things. I've wondered, as time's gone on here, I mean, at the start of training camp, it was Dylan Larkin and Sean Horkoff sitting next to each other up on the podium taking questions. Is there any chance... 28:10 If anything, you've heard that Orkoff or someone in there is trying to mend the relationship to have Dylan Larkin reconsider his position. 28:22 I think they absolutely have talked about it. I've just heard it's really unlikely. Okay. 28:29 But I don't think your hypothesis is wrong at all, Kyle. I don't think your hypothesis is wrong. 28:39 Okay, well, they open their season on Friday, so pressure remains on there because it's not just Larkin they've got to worry about. 28:49 All right, so we keep playing the hits here, but that's because they remain big topics as the league just gets started up again, Elliot. What about Alexander Niketian? Some new information may be trickling out there? 29:02 Well, I mean, there's been some noise about, you know, could this be coming to an end? 29:09 It's... 29:11 It's tough to tell. I really spent a lot of time looking into it because, well, you know, Emily Kaplan reported it the other day before one of her games. By the way, I wanted to tell you that, remind me to tell you a story about that game after we're done here. Okay. 29:33 As far as I could tell, some of that noise was created because the new agent, Paul Theofanus, was... 29:42 doing some work catching up on the file. So I think because he was poking around and asking around a lot, things had kicked up. So it's hard for me to tell if that means it's actually close or he's just catching himself up. We'll see. 30:02 But like there was definitely some noise that maybe something could happen. 30:06 It was hard to tell. I got a little bit of pushback on that. We'll see. I mean, hopefully it does happen. So this is all over. But I did get a little bit of pushback on it. You know, one thing I wanted to mention, because it went viral after I talked on NHL Network on Tuesday, I did mention that the Hurricanes had offered – Nikitian a long-term deal, and some people took that to mean it happened recently. 30:39 It's not true. It wasn't recent. I think it was about a year ago, but it was in the same style that they've done Jackson Blake and Logan Stankoven. Eight years... 30:53 Long term, it was around it was around five million a year. But there was some I think some people interpreted that as they did it recently. It wasn't recent. It was it was about a year ago. But they did do that and try to lock them in like they've done some other players. And Nikitian wasn't willing to do that at this time. 31:15 Okay. 31:16 Also wanted to just wish Brock Faber all the best. Yes. Man, what a brutal injury there. Brutal. 31:23 Fractured skull with the puck he took up to the head in the preseason. 31:27 You're big on Minnesota this year, and many people are, and they're going to miss him. So, okay, the game you wanted me to remind you to mention that Emily was working, was that Boston, New York on Tuesday? 31:39 Well, no, it was actually the Carolina game. Oh, sorry. 31:45 Yeah, so the Carolina game. And, you know, by the way, I think the Wild are being pretty careful about Faber's timeline. Like, they really don't want to put anything on it and just let it play out, which is probably the smart move here. I don't think anybody would argue that. 32:03 So... 32:05 I was lobbying for Carolina, Florida as the opener, right? Because Carolina's obviously raising the banner, and I thought Florida was the perfect opponent. 32:22 I wrote in the notes this week about... 32:27 a meme that appeared this year about how there was a photoshopped hurricanes stanley cup banner And it said, Hurricanes avoided the Panthers in the playoffs, 2025-26. 32:49 Now, I had some people send me some DMs saying it was a person on the internet who did that. And like I said, I don't know who did it. 32:58 The point was that some Hurricanes people were sent that. 33:05 like specifically sent that. 33:07 I don't know if it was to make them laugh or to poke fun at them, but it was specifically sent to the Hurricanes. So I was like, you have to have them play each other, right? You have to do it. Now, initially, I think the Hurricanes were supposed to open against Pittsburgh, but the NHL did the right thing and they switched it. 33:32 and they made Carolina-Florida the game. Unfortunately, Kyle, the game was a bit of a dud. 33:43 It didn't hit on all the notes we were hoping. Forsling, of course, scored an overtime for Florida to win the game and the in-season cup, giving Luke the in-season cup. 33:56 But it was a bit of a dud. 33:59 a bit of a dud. 34:01 Despite Nick Deloria and Boko Imama's attempts to make it a little more exciting, both physically and verbally, it was a bit of a dud. 34:11 And somebody... 34:11 I kept looking at the shot totals. I'm like... 34:14 I'm not reading this right, am I? It didn't seem real. This is the Hurricanes we're talking about here, right? 34:20 Yes, especially at home where they lean on the shot counter. Like somebody never takes their finger off the shot counter. 34:28 And so somebody who was watching the game who had heard me beg for this matchup sent me a note during it saying, you owe all of us an apology. Yeah. 34:44 Allow me to apologize to everybody for that. 34:49 No, I mean, look, coming off the short preseason, I think that was evident, not in every game, but certainly in a few early on here, these first couple of nights, Elliot, where just offensively, those little moves in tight, the passes through sticks... 35:07 between legs, stuff like that that would be instinctive as players got more and more back into the rhythm of things just aren't quite there yet. And so I think that's why you saw that go 1-0 in overtime, why there was no scoring in Boston, New York until just a few minutes left in the third, why... Toronto-Montreal was relatively low scoring, and then there was Edmonton-Vancouver, and then there was Colorado-LA, and my goodness, the Pittsburgh Penguins laying the boots to Philadelphia on Wednesday night. 35:41 Seven to nothing. By the way, I saw Crosby's walk-in before the game, and there was nothing covering up the belt. 35:50 So you can see it? It was visible? We missed it because we were still on the golf course. You watched it later? 35:56 Yeah. I went back and saw it. 35:59 Big night, right? National audience. 36:02 He wasn't hiding it. 36:05 And the belt was big, 7-0, a converted touchdown. 36:08 Yes, yeah, yeah. So that gave the most record. 36:12 I forgot which Barr brother used to kick. I think it was Matt Barr who kicked for Pittsburgh when I was a kid. Matt Barr kicked the extra point for the Steelers over the Eagles. 36:21 Yes, that's right. And became most regular season wins in history by one trio, Crosby, Malkin, Letang. That's amazing. Surpassing Joe Thornton, Joe Pavelski, and Mark Edward Vlasic. So... 36:37 Unbelievable start by them. And then you've got Rick Tockett on the flyer side saying, I don't know if we want to battle at all tonight. And that was the worst D zone performance he had seen since he's been the coach in Philadelphia. It's like right away. 36:54 The fires blaze in there with the Flyers going. They've got their attention in a hurry. 37:00 Remember last year was Detroit? Todd McClellan? I was thinking that exact same thing. The exact same thing. 37:09 You know, it's very similar. 37:11 It's really tough to stink in your home openers. That's, you know, I saw Kevin Kurz, who has covered the Flyers for a long time before and then after he came back from San Jose. And, you know, he was basically saying the Flyers should give everybody a ticket. should just say, hey, everybody who was at our game, we're giving you a free ticket to another one. It's actually not a terrible idea. That was a nightmare of a performance. It's embarrassing. 37:40 We talked about how Anaheim, even though they dress an AHL lineup against San Jose in the preseason, it's never acceptable to lose 10-0. No matter how inferior your lineup is, it's worse to lose your home opener seven to nothing against your most hated rival. Like that is the worst kind of butt kicking. And, you know, Pittsburgh looked great. 38:06 And, you know, Crosby will continue with the lucky belt because he got a couple of points. I'll say this, and you know this, there's a lot of people in the Toronto area where we live who are rooting, well, you don't live here, but you're here a lot, who are rooting for Nick Robertson. Like, I don't know if there will be a player in the league that the Toronto fans will be rooting for more than Nick Robertson. It didn't work out for him here, but everybody recognizes the talent. 38:37 He never caused a problem. He's a real easygoing guy. And I was happy to see that he got two goals, including a shorthanded one. Because I think a lot of people want to see Robertson do well. Great, great start for him. Great start for the Penguins. And Kyle, what else did we learn on Wednesday night? That every six years, Nathan McKinnon throws a helmet. 39:07 that's right this time it was just at the boards not at another player so Connor Garland 2020 his own helmet 2026 in 2032 bucket Nathan McKinnon is throwing a helmet Brent Clark That guy can get under people's skin. They were mad at him for stuff last year. 39:30 They were mad at him for running McCarr. Then they were mad... I guess McKinnon said he said something to him he didn't like. That Brant Clark... Somebody told me a funny story about him once that he couldn't find his shoes once when he was living in a billets house, and he just put the dad's shoes on and wore them to school. Like, he's just... He's just like, okay. 39:56 He's a good guy to talk to. He's pretty funny. I love talking to him. But he definitely has that edge to him. And boy, he seriously pissed off McKinnon. And you're right. 40:11 At least we got a couple of wild ones in the West that Kings Avalanche won and that Canucks Oilers won. Which one do you want to do first, Kings Avalanche or Canucks Oilers? 40:22 Well, I just want to say, so the other news on Wednesday was Jared Bednar getting the four-year extension to remain head coach of the Avalanche. And I loved on the graphic that the social team put out when their announcement, they included an image of Bednar with the long hair and with the short hair. I thought that was a nice touch. 40:42 What if they did that on purpose? 40:44 I want to believe that they did. 40:46 You want to believe that they did? Yes. Yeah. The opposite men was on the ball and they made sure both choices were included. Who has the best long hair slash short hair combination? 40:59 Is it Jared Bednar or Gene Principe? Oh, I can't go against that teammate. And has anyone seen the two of them in the same room together? 41:10 Yeah, because it kind of grows out similarly, eh? You got the lovely salt and pepper, distinguished look. 41:21 And it gets a little, you know, they get some curly, nice natural wave to it. I don't know. And both of them could rock either wonderfully. But I can't go against their teammates. 41:31 That's fair. I think that's the right answer. I can't remember if it was Colby or it was Kevin, but we threw to a hit on Tuesday night. I think it was in the second intermission of Toronto-Montreal. We threw to a hit with Gene previewing the Oilers, the Canucks. And one of them said... You've got to be kidding. That hair, when they looked at Gene. And I said, it's beautiful. He's rocking the floor. I'm glad you brought up Bednar. I'll say this. When they lost, and we knew he was going into the last year of his contract. 42:03 Yeah. 42:05 I asked somebody in Colorado, are we on a bed in our watch? 42:09 And sometimes you send out a question and it takes a long time for an answer to come back. This one came back fast, no chance. 42:18 No chance. 42:19 And, you know, obviously they announced he was coming back and now they have extended him. You know, the thing, the challenge, I think, and this is what happened to Mike Sullivan in Pittsburgh, is that there's no question that you're a good coach and you have one of the best coaches in the league, but it gets stale. 42:37 Anybody who's ever been in a long-term relationship with anyone, marriage or partner, whoever it is, there's moments where it gets stale. And the challenge is, how do you get past that? And I think the Penguins felt and Sullivan felt eventually that one got stale. But you look at Cooper in Tampa and you look at Bednar in Colorado and the organization and obviously the coaches feel it's not stale. 43:08 It can still work. I think you'd look at a guy like John Cooper, you'd look at a guy like Mike Sullivan, you'd look at a guy like Jared Bednar and you'd say, we have one of the best coaches in the league and we can't And if we get rid of them or we lose them, it's going to be impossible to get the same kind of person. 43:33 But you have to make sure the relationship is still moving forward. Sometimes that staleness can even end the tenure of an excellent coach. 43:45 Right, and Bednar would be the second longest tenured in terms of active ones behind only John Cooper at this point, right? It was 10 years ago. There were boats. He took the gig in Colorado, won Stanley Cup, and still very much chased another one. You know, it was weird last year seeing as dynamite of a season that the Avalanche had. the power play was not the threat that it should be given the personnel involved there. Well, game one on Wednesday night, they score four on the man advantage, but also give up two shorties. 44:17 So it was a great night, but not a perfect night. It was just a wild game. 44:22 It was great entertainment. For sure. The worse the defense is, the better the games are, right? Like that was the case in LA and Colorado. And that was the case in Edmonton, Vancouver. Like the coaches hated it, but the, the fans love it. It's a, you know, Buffalo talked a big game about how they did like a real analytic breakdown into their power play. 44:44 Bednar's a thinker, right? Like he's got a lot of that to him. I got to think Colorado did something too. I, you know, it's funny, you know, you, you, you score four times on the power play and you're only plus two. You're probably walking back to your coach's room after going, what on earth are we dealing with here? That was a, That was a really, really entertaining hockey game. 45:08 You know, Edmonton, Vancouver. 45:12 So you and Craig Simpson were watching that with a post-game steak. Was that what was going on? 45:18 Yes. Yeah, yeah. What's become – I mean, usually it's on Saturdays, getting together after a game and watching the late game. And as we've seen in the past number of years, like – Game number one for Edmonton hasn't always gone great and we couldn't help but kind of make the comment, watch and go and feel like we've seen this movie before when it became 5-2 Vancouver in the third period before they storm back and at least force overtime. But, you know, it's like right away there's some great video of the here and now for Mike Babcock and his staff to go, all right, If this is how we want to play, it's not going to be great for us. 46:00 But it didn't take long for that feeling to hit Edmonton. And the new head coach, as much as things have changed in terms of who's in charge, there was a lot of familiarity in how they started their season. Sloppy, enough to get a point, but plenty of work still to do for the oil. 46:21 Poppy got sloppy. 46:23 Yes. Chris Knobloch was probably sitting there saying, hey, I'm not so dumb now, am I? It's not that easy, is it? It's not that easy, is it? You know, what was Babcock's line? That was ridiculous. Yes. You know what the thing I really liked in that game was? First of all, I give a lot of credit to Vancouver. Yeah. Like, it's pretty obvious that Malhotra challenged them, right? And when I was on Hockey Central on Wednesday with Marquesi and Futa, I remember a game a few years ago when Vancouver wasn't expected to be great. 47:01 Travis Green was coaching them. And it was also early in the year. It might have been the first Saturday at home against Edmonton. And Green challenged Derek Dorsett and said, you're getting McDavid tonight. 47:13 And Dorsett was one of the best games he played in his career. 47:18 He loved the challenge. And to me, it reminded me of that. It was Vancouver. It was Malhotra challenging them. 47:28 And remember, the way the game started, Kyle, we thought it was going to be 8-0 for Edmonton. They got off to a great start. And those Canucks really battled Cotter and Sasson and the D especially. 47:42 But... 47:45 It was five to two and Edmonton got the point. And I love the fact that Babcock left Jari and he didn't pull him. You know, it's game one of 84. 47:58 You've got to show you can battle. You know, I was thinking about this. So when I screwed up the swim race with Phelps and Lochte, I actually quit that night. Like I told our guys, I'm done. I'm going home. I can't work anymore. 48:14 And Trevor Pilling, who was the executive producer, refused to accept it. He said, you're going back on the air tomorrow. And I have never been less confident as a broadcaster. I mean, Kyle, you know me pretty well. I'm a pretty confident guy. sometimes too confident for how untalented i am but that day that and that whatever day that was i was scared to press the microphone like i was scared to go on the air but trevor said i don't care you're going out there and you're doing it and If you remember at that time anybody was watching, I really struggled the next day. 48:53 Like I was not very good. And, you know, even people like I remember in that moment when that happened with Phelps and Lochte, like the vast majority on social media were very bad. supportive but the next day when i was struggling to get through the races like there were people who were like you should go home and they weren't wrong like that was criticism i had to take like i was not very good the next day but gradually starting with the the day after i i started to get going again we had the last couple days of swimming i did the diving i i called another medal for canada And I felt better. 49:33 It was the right thing. I had to pull myself back together. And watching Jari in the third period, he battled and he made a couple of saves. And I thought that was a great coaching move. Nope, you're staying out there and you're going to battle. And what's most important is that Jari had to show his teammates that that he would battle. It got to 5-2, but like I said, he made a couple saves that at least got them a point. I thought that was important. 50:04 Now, in the pod before the season, Kyle, I said that my breakthrough guy this year is going to be Devin Levi, and I assume he starts Thursday in Vancouver. We'll figure it out. 50:16 And if I was coaching, I'd say, okay, Devin, here's your shot. 50:22 You... 50:24 You have to go. This is your time to show that you're our number one guy or you can be our number one guy. But I really thought it was important on that night that Babcock kept Jari in and said, you have to battle. You have to show these guys that that you can battle. And I always look for the bright side. I always try to say in game one of 84, it's okay to say that was ridiculous and it can't happen, but you always have to find building blocks. 50:56 And even when it doesn't make any sense, I always believe you have to find building blocks. And the building block for me was that Jari didn't quit, that he fought to get that point. 51:10 Yes, and I love to acknowledge the effort of Vancouver in this one. That was cool that they were like... 51:20 we're good. We can win a game. We can win the hockey game. Uh, I just, I enjoyed Paul Cotter's interview with, with Gene. Really good. Um, that guy's a good player, man. Really good. I've always liked him. And for a guy that he's always liked him. New, new to the Canucks, right. It's not like he's been through all of this the last three, four years. Um, But just listen to his perspective and the line about how the rest of the world sees us and our chances this year versus how we view things are completely different. 51:53 It's just a great reminder that when you've got a group of competitors that can manage to come together and decide that's how they're going to handle things, like an opening night on the road in Edmonton where everyone's expecting it to get blown out of the water, it's pretty cool. 52:11 Yeah, and I'll say the other thing that really intrigued me from this game is that I thought Pedersen, and I'm talking about the forward, had a pretty quiet night, and then he got that beautiful goal on the power play. And he made a couple of really nice plays, the setup and then the goal. 52:31 And it made me think, like, first of all, there's no better way to get a skilled player their cookies than on the power play. And no doubt it makes him feel really good about himself. 52:42 But I just wonder, like, what if he becomes, at the very least, and he's more than this at his best, what if he becomes a power play specialist? 52:56 What if he can do that on the power play enough this year, and again, God knows he's talented enough to do it, that somebody looks at him and says, or he begins to feel better about himself as a person and a player, that he drives up that value. Because all of a sudden, before the summer, we're all talking about 11-6. 11-6 ain't so bad anymore. 53:22 And I'm looking at that and I'm saying, if he can do that on a power play and consistently do that in a power play, how much more valuable a player does he become? 53:36 Right. I mean, he's always got those touches for a long time in Vancouver, being a power play guy. 53:47 just hasn't always worked. 53:49 Success hasn't always been there. I think that the big thing for him is that you score night one, right? It's the Craig Simpson line. Like just get that zero off your stat sheet ASAP for someone, especially, you know, like Pedersen that gets feeling good about himself a little bit right away. And now there's a little something to build on. I mean, if there's one area you want to hone in on to say, okay, how can I be valuable? 54:17 Power play is not a bad place to look at. 54:20 Excellent. 54:22 Excellent. 54:23 All right, so that'll take us to the final thought, and I believe if I tallied it up right, Elliot, there are eight new captains across the NHL over the course of the summer to now the new season getting underway. The most recent appointment coming in the nation's capital, Thomas Chabot, now donning the sea for the Senators, a first-round pick back in 2015. He is the longest-tenured active member of the organization, a very popular person in that dressing room. I wasn't surprised when I saw this, Elliot. 54:55 I covered him the bulk of his career. He's a very likable guy. He's a very personable person. He has never had an issue with doing interviews, with taking questions from the media, with all the obligations that comes with being an NHL player to being part of the leadership group. I think, by and large, he would be one of the go-to guys as a social organizer. 55:21 for the players i think there's just a lot to like there as a person that perfectly fits the criteria of what you want a captain to be and something you've said on this show for many many many years that has always stuck with me especially in a canadian market to be a captain you've either got to have a little bit of that bleep you in you or just the ability that it's like water off a duck's back when the criticism comes it doesn't bother you. 55:51 And I've always felt that Shabbat has been that guy because he's been a lightning rod at times. And part of it, it's not even in a situation where it's remotely his fault because he's playing through some kind of injury that we don't know the extent of and is just trying to do all he can to stay in the lineup. He battles through a lot. He's spent his entire career there in Ottawa. And the fact that, of course, he is a Francophone player just as a bonus because growing that side of the fan base matters to the ownership too. 56:29 I don't think that was the driving force. I wouldn't imagine that's the driving force there. I think that was just a nice compliment. 56:35 I think he's the perfect fit for what they're looking for in this role. Were you surprised at all that he was the guy? 56:44 No, I wasn't. It's interesting, though, because I thought they had three good candidates. 56:50 And you got to know your personalities well. 56:55 And, you know, I figured Stutzler would love to be the captain. I figured Sanderson would love to be the captain. I wondered about the symbolism of giving Sanderson the C after Kachuk left. Yeah. 57:10 First of all, I'm not knocking the Shabbat choice. I think it's a great choice for all the reasons you said. And I defer to you here, especially because you live there and covered them. I thought all three of them would have been great choices. I mean, you're lucky you have three guys who you legitimately say could be the captain. I think the thing that most interests me, and I'll probably ask around a bit on Kyle, is that how did they end up on Shabbat? Not because he's a bad choice. He's a great choice, but because I think he had three excellent choices. 57:46 And, uh, I think it's, uh, but I think it's, I think it's a really good call. Like, I think the thing about Shabbat just from watching him, uh, from afar and i you hit it is that he's kind of he's not a roller coaster guy he's really calm and i think when you're in the battle you don't mind if your leader publicly projects calm what he is behind the scenes Sometimes it's a little different, but publicly he's calm. 58:28 I like that. I really like that. 58:30 He's the perfect guy for if they're going through a rough patch, no problem going out and fighting off the pitchforks. And when things are going great, I'm in the back. Somebody else can go talk about how good of a team we are. 58:50 Perfect guy for that. 58:53 Nice. I like it. Congrats to him. Okay. That was the final thought. And with that, we will take our first break here on 32 Thoughts, the podcast. When we return, you know what's next, a brand new edition of the Thoughtline after the break. 59:18 Okay, welcome back. Time once again for another edition of The Thought Line presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary, Elliot and Dom. Do you remember the trivia that we left with at the end of last pod with regards to opening night? Actually... 59:36 I don't. What was it? 59:39 So, Cody from Winnipeg wrote in asking about the percentage of players on opening night rosters that were older than me. 59:51 Oh, right, right, right. I forgot about this. 59:54 Yes. And Don said 17% and I took the under? 59:56 You took 16.99%. 60:02 So who won the showcase showdown? You did the reverse. You did the reverse showcase showdown. So I went and tallied it up. 60:11 And again, it was just the 20 players dressed from each team on opening night, the five games on Tuesday nights. 60:20 The percentage came in 15. 60:23 Yes. Yes. 60:26 15. I was so close. Both of you guys. But you are a loser. I give Elliot no credit. He was just going to $1 me anything I said. 60:39 You know what, Dom? Dom, sour grapes, man. It's really unbecoming. Take your L like an adult. Okay? 60:52 Don't be a suck. Take your L like an adult. 60:55 Yeah. You made up the rule of over under here with all this new one. I'm 1699. 61:00 I didn't make anything up. I've watched The Price is Right for many, many years. It is a skill and a strategy. 61:09 Yes, it is. And it should be treated as such. Yeah, 15%. It's a little jarring to see, but... 61:18 I guess that's reality now. Kyle, I remember... Do you have any shout-outs? 61:22 Yes, I do. I remember when I started out as a wee young lad like you covering sports and someone said to me, you will really be... 61:31 awakened when you realize you're older than everyone you cover you've gone from the youngest person in the clubhouse or the dressing room to the oldest and congratulations i am there and soon you will be too okay so uh yeah kyle a couple of shout outs uh first of all on the range today as we were hitting and getting ready uh we met uh Caden LeClaire, who is a young golfer. 62:03 So we played the TPC, the Osprey Valley. And Kyle, thank you for arranging that for us. It was an incredible course. It was a lot of fun. And they have an academy there. And Caden LeClaire, who's 16 years old, was one of the players who goes to that academy. 62:24 And he's a plus one handicap, which none of us are, although I should say BX did shoot 77th. 62:35 He played... That was a quiet 77. 62:37 Yeah, you know what? He just didn't get into trouble. I think I really only saw him hit, like, flub one shot all day. But he shot 77, so he did great. But Caden's a plus one at 16. Real nice kid. Just wanted to shout him out. There were a couple other ones. 62:56 So when I was walking to the opening day game in Toronto, Rogers had a promotion for tickets. And there was a long lineup of people who wanted to get in. Like, those are our hardcore fans. Like, without fans like those who are lining up to do that, like, none of us have jobs in the business. And this was Tuesday morning, Kyle. I was walking towards the morning skate in the Cheka press conference. And one of them saw me walking by and he yells out, stank. And I turn because I answer to this now. 63:27 And he says to me, you took too long on the Marchenko. It took too long. And I'm like, hey, man, I don't control this stuff. 63:37 I report it. 63:39 If it takes five hours to happen, it takes five hours to happen. But anyway, it was funny exchange. You know, we did the. 63:51 We did the previews for the predictions for Sportsnet, the bane of my existence, and a Twitter follower named Brandon D put my Art Ross trophy prediction there, and I predicted Conor Bedard. 64:07 And he wrote, not judging, but more confirming. You meant to pick Bedard for the Art Ross, even though he's missing some time at the start? 64:16 And I responded, I did. I just wanted to do something different and see if people were paying attention. But, you know, Brandon was. I actually did forget that Bedard was hurt at the beginning of the year. I just wanted to do something not the same. Like, I can't do the same thing. And so I kind of throw a couple of goofy ones in there. And I also wanted to shout out Paulo, who stopped me on the street on Tuesday to say, you tell Craig Button that it's disgusting that he picked the Leafs not to make the playoffs. 64:53 And this was a moment where there really was no point in saying that Craig and I do not work on the same network. So I just told Paulo, I got the message. And I'm just letting Craig know that Paulo from Toronto, a big hockey fan, is mad that you did not pick the Leafs to make the playoffs. 65:13 Good. 65:14 Glad you could pass that on for him. 65:15 Yeah, no problem. I mean, I'm just a messenger. 65:18 Yeah, yes. 65:20 Well, when it comes to shout outs and shout outs from your past, we got this in the inbox. Peter from the Yorkdale Indigo. 65:27 Oh, really? He wrote in? Good guy. Dear Mr. Friedman. 65:30 Yeah. Just wanted to thank you for the shout out on Monday's episode of the pod. It really made my day. I have an idea for something you might explore on your show. Perhaps you all could share your favorite hockey books online. with the listeners. I have just started reading a new release called Scotty Davidson, The Extraordinary Life and Mysterious Death of Canada's Forgotten Hockey Hero. And so far, it is fascinating. His story might be good for a mention around Remembrance Day. Best wishes to you and all the 32 crew. 66:04 Thank you for that recommendation, Peter. Do you have favorite hockey books that you have read over your life, Elliot? 66:12 I have so many. I'm looking at my bookshelf, you know, right here. Do you have one that you really like? You know what? I mean... 66:24 As a kid, of course, the hockey sweater. Oh, yeah. I have that here somewhere. Yeah. 66:31 And still even reading it as an adult. It's so good. I mean, The Game by Ken Dryden. I have to say, though, as an adult now, I tend to lean more towards like we're doing hockey all the time now. Yeah. 66:44 When I read, it's usually something else. Yes. I really love when Ken Reed wrote that one night only book. That's a good, a bunch of players only on one game in the NHL and their stories unique to that one night. 66:59 Really great. And I, of course there's others too, but as I say, like I normally now it's I'm, I'm reading other genres because the other time in my day I'm, I'm living hockey as is. So what do you got on, on your bookshelf? 67:13 Well, I should say this. I've read it before, but I'm reading it again just because of the position he's in now. I'm rereading Matt Sundin's book. 67:22 And it's a good book. 67:24 It's a really, really good book. 67:29 I've always had a lot of time for Mats and the way he carries himself. So I would say Sundin's book is up there. 67:41 You know, I'll say this too. There's a book that didn't get a lot of... 67:50 when it was written, but it's a really well done book. And I want to shout out the author. It's Tal Pinchewski. 67:59 And he wrote a book called Breakaway. And it's basically about players who left the Iron Curtain to play in North America back when that was a much, much harder thing to do. 68:15 That's a great book. But I'm like you, Kyle. I read a lot of non-hockey, and I read a lot of world history and world politics. And I'm reading a book right now on the history of Jerusalem. 68:30 And, you know, Jerusalem is one of the most powerful cities to all different religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. And I've been reading it, and it's an incredible read. So that's what I'm reading. 68:44 right now very cool okay Paul from Suffolk England hello 32 thoughts team your discussions last week regarding the NHL firming up safety equipment made me wonder if mouth guards are considered safety equipment. If so, why does the NHL ignore the many players who chew their mouth guard for the entirety of every shift? This includes many star players. Surely this is more of a safety issue than an untucked Jersey. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on why this is always completely ignored. 69:19 Chewing your mouth guard seems dangerous to me. It would be better not to have one at all. Surely keep up the great work, love the pod and look forward to it dropping each and every time. Go Habs go. It is considered safety equipment. It's just not mandatory. 69:34 That's right. And that's the issue. 69:36 And, you know, I have to say, Justin, there were a number of people who sort of close enough. Close enough. Well, first of all, Paul, your name should be Justin. I think that's what I'm trying to say now. Yeah. Sorry, Paul. For some reason, I thought it was Justin. 69:54 There were a number of people who wrote in just like you. You were definitely not the only one. And you're right. Mothgard is not in the rule book. It's not required. And that's why it's not part of this. That's the reason. 70:09 All right, Elliot, we will end with this one. Charles from Carp, Ontario. Surely fresh off a great time at another installment of the Carp Fair. 70:19 I like how you used fresh carp. Very carp and fresh in the same sentence. 70:24 Yeah. That is good. All of Alice's Cafe. Have you ever been to the carp fair? 70:29 No, I've been to Carp, but I've never been to the Carp Fair. Oh, whale of a time. Dear Team32, saw a tweet today saying that over his career, Justin Verlander had faced batters born in 1958 and in 2006 for a 48-year spread. So that got me thinking. Yeah. 70:51 Which NHL goalie has allowed goals to the widest year of birth spread? My first instinct slash wild guess is Martim Brodeur, but I was hoping to hear Frege's answer as well as the correct answer. 71:08 Brodeur is a great call. He would have been... He probably... 71:18 would have been my... I mean, like, the right answers appear to be guys like, who played goal until, like, their 40s? 71:25 Brodeur, Ed Belfort was another one that jumped to my... Curtis Joseph... 71:34 And then if you go back into the olden days, Johnny Bauer, even though nobody knew really how old he was, for real, but like Johnny Bauer... 71:50 There would have to be a bunch of those guys, like Tony Esposito played for an awful long time. There's a lot of good choices there. Since you picked Brodeur, I'm going to go with Curtis Joseph. 72:08 Neither are correct. 72:10 What era? 2000s onward. Oh, okay. So it's a recent guy. 72:17 Is it Belfour? No. 72:21 Is it Luongo? 72:23 Nope. 72:24 Who is it? 72:26 Marc-Andre Fleury. You know, I mean, it makes sense. 72:32 It makes sense. 72:35 So the oldest player to score on him was Marc Messier. 72:43 The youngest player to score on him Macklin Celebrini. So Messier born in 1961. Celebrini born in 2006 for a 45-year gap. 72:58 Wow. 73:00 That is a great, great, great, great question. 73:06 Yes. 73:08 I love that he took a baseball stat and spun it into goaltending. And SN stats delivered again. 73:16 coming up with that answer. Good stuff, Charles. I like that one a lot. That's a good one. 73:22 Great way to leave it. If you would like to send in your own trivia question or any kind of question, please do so. Write us an email, 32thoughts at sportsnet.ca or leave us a voicemail at 1-833-311-3232. We'll take one final break and some music to play us out. You're listening to 32 Thoughts, the podcast. 73:59 Okay, so that'll about do it for the Thursday edition of the pod as we adjust to our new schedule moving forward. Later tonight, eight games on tap across the National Hockey League, all of which can be streamed on Sportsnet Plus and wanted to highlight one of the games, the return affair after Vancouver went into Edmonton and won on Tuesday. The Canucks have their home opener at 10 Eastern, 8 Mountain, 7 Pacific. They host the Oilers at Rogers Arena. That can be seen nationally on Sportsnet One. 74:30 Also, you can listen to it on 104.9 KISS FM, and maybe you'll even stick around to hear Dom Sharmati, our own producer, host the intermissions as well. Best of luck, Dom and your crew, on another season of Canucks Hockey. Busy night on Thursday across the league. Should be a lot of fun. Okay, taking us out today. Yes, the music is back. The get-alongs are Toronto rockers who pull the finest ingredients from 60s Garage, 70s Power Pop, and 90s Psychedelia to concoct their own unmistakable sound. 75:08 Second to none, their sophomore LP and first studio recorded effort finds the band confidently honing their craft, nestling sticky hooks in guitar-driven arrangements that alternate between bone-shaking and trance in Producing, expertly riding the line between jangly melodicism and pure, unadulterated rocking. 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